Abstract
<p>This chapter, written in the form of a dialogue, features an in-depth interview with professor Johan Wagemans, a renowned perception researcher and principal investigator of the Palettes project. Over nearly two decades, Wagemans has been at the forefront of interdisciplinary research bridging science and art. In this conversation, he reflects on his personal journey working with artists across disciplinary boundaries and explores how his understanding of art–science relationships has transformed from his earliest collaboration (Parallellepipeda in 2008) to hiscurrent work in Palettes.Through a series of anecdotes and critical reflections, the chapter highlights both the strengths and the challenges of conducting long-term art–science collaborations. Wagemans discusses what has worked, what has not, and why, offering insights into the subtle dynamics of interdisciplinary exchange and the conditions that foster meaningful interaction. Looking ahead, he considers emerging pathways, ambitions, and opportunities for future art–science engagement, particularly beyond formal academic structures.The chapter is complemented by selected artworks that symbolize key turning points in his journey and visually illustrate themes raised in the dialogue. Together, the narrative and visual materials illuminate how art–science collaborations can evolve, deepen, and open new directions forresearch and creative practice.</p>